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| Which of these US Navy Carrier Based Fighters served with NORAD? |
| 1. F3H Demon |
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12% |
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| 2. F4D Skyray |
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28% |
[ 7 ] |
| 3. F4H Phantom II |
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32% |
[ 8 ] |
| 4. F7U Cutlass |
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12% |
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| 5. F8U Crusader |
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8% |
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| 6. F11F Tiger |
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8% |
[ 2 ] |
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Which of these US Navy carrier based fighters served with NORAD?
1. F3H Demon
2. F4D Skyray
3. F4H Phantom II
4. F7U Cutlass
5. F8U Crusader
6. F11F Tiger
Vote for the fighter aircraft you believe flew with the North American Air Defense (NORAD) Command and then post the reasons for your choice!!
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This one is to easy cag. The answer is the F8 Crusader. It is the only one fast enough to do the job.
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| Wed Mar 4 17:56:11 2009 |
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| Viper-Pilot wrote: | | This one is to easy cag. The answer is the F8 Crusader. It is the only one fast enough to do the job. |
Well you could be right...
Or you could be wrong! 
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Questions:
At what point do you consider "NORAD" to exist? The first Navy fighter to provide continental air defense duties under the USAF isn't on the list.
Also, why do you call it the "F-4H" since it was really dez'd the F-4B in service? ( and no the F-4 wasn't the first one, CAG wouldn't make it that easy on me lol )
This is an interesting one because of all the bodies involved in the early days of the DEW concepts and operations.
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| Tue Mar 24 1:14:47 2009 |
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The naval aircraft that is the right choice flew directly for NORAD. It was after NORAD took control of all CONUS air defense...
As to the other questions I can not answer them until after the poll ends...
Sorry, but my job isnt to make it easy!
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| Wed Mar 25 1:41:18 2009 |
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Hhmmm, let's see what we got here...
I'm going to vote for the Crusader.
Even if I'm not at knowledge of USA matters, I'm trying to put this among those similar events occurred in the beginning of that age, so I think that that plane could have effectively been the fastest.
It might seem a little cumplicated to explain, but also for me isn't always easy to make things easy. 
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| Wed Mar 25 6:39:37 2009 |
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| I voted for the Cutlass, as it was the most modern fighter available to the USN when NORAD began operations with jet fighters. |
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| Wed Mar 25 11:50:22 2009 |
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Well that could be right, or it could be wrong!
Time will tell...
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| Wed Mar 25 15:45:44 2009 |
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Good job on this one Pappy.
It seems a little too obvious, but I have to get behind the Phantom on this one. It was built to be an interceptor in the heady days of the "dogfighting is dead" era, after all.
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| Wed Mar 25 21:13:55 2009 |
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Yes I agree Duke this is a good poll! Thanks again Pappy!
I guess we will find out if your answer is right soon enough Duke...
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| Wed Mar 25 21:19:24 2009 |
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The Phantom is the likely contender <s> Wedge
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| Fri Mar 27 0:04:23 2009 |
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I don't remember which one I voted for ( lol ) but the ones I am sure are NOT the winner are the Tiger, Crusader and Cutlass. I don't think any of them had the RADAR necessary even back when NORAD was directing fighters to targets.
I might post some stuff after the poll on one of the more amazing contenders here.
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| Sat Mar 28 2:56:33 2009 |
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| kaptor wrote: | I don't remember which one I voted for ( lol ) but the ones I am sure are NOT the winner are the Tiger, Crusader and Cutlass. I don't think any of them had the RADAR necessary even back when NORAD was directing fighters to targets.
I might post some stuff after the poll on one of the more amazing contenders here. |
Dont be so certain Kap... You forgot about the F7U-3M...
| Quote: | | This version was armed with the AIM-7 Sparrow air-to-air missile, 98 built. A total of 48 F7U-3 existing airframes were upgraded to F7U-3M standard. |
Obviously if it carried the Sparrow it was more then adquate for use by NORAD to shoot down bombers...
But, of course, that doesnt mean it is the right choice for this particular poll, and, of course, it doesnt mean that its the wrong choice either!
In addition, the F11 Tiger was supersonic, so it was fast enough to shoot down bombers, and carried the Sidewinder missile, in addition to 4 20mm cannons...
And as you already know, the F8U Crusader was more then fast enough, armed with the same Sidewinder missiles, and was used to intercept NVAF MiGs during the Vietnam War...
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| Sun Mar 29 22:58:34 2009 |
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Yes but none of them received the magic touch of Ed Heinemann 
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| Sat Apr 11 3:02:56 2009 |
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Well, considering that piece of data that Kap let slip and the length this poll has run, I guess its about time to list the answer...
And that answer is...
The F4D Skyray!
| Quote: | | In April 1956, VC-3 was the first squadron operational with the F4D-1. This unit was later redesignated VFAW-3 and assigned to NORAD, as the only U.S. Navy squadron. VFAW-3 was permanently based at NAS North Island, San Diego. |
| Quote: | | The Skyray was designed to meet a Navy requirement issued in 1947 for a fighter aircraft capable of intercepting and destroying an enemy aircraft at an altitude of 50,000 ft (15,240 m) within five minutes of the alarm being sounded.[2] The Navy also wanted an aircraft which followed the designs and research of the German aerodynamicist Alexander Lippisch who moved to the U.S. after World War II. |
| Quote: | The F4D Skyray was a wide delta wing design with long, sharply swept, rounded wings. The design was named after the Manta ray fish which it resembled. [3] The thick wing roots contained the air intakes feeding a single turbojet engine. Fuel was contained both in the wings and the deep fuselage. Leading-edge slats were fitted for increased lift during takeoff and landing, while the trailing edges were mostly elevon control surfaces. Additional pitch trimmers were fitted inboard near the jet exhaust, and were locked upward on takeoff and landing.
The Westinghouse J40 turbojet was the intended power plant, but Douglas fortunately took a conservative view and designed in contingency options for other power plants. The J40 proved troublesome and was eventually cancelled, and the Skyray was fitted instead with the Pratt & Whitney J57, a more powerful but larger engine.
Production aircraft were not delivered until early 1956, while the U.S. Marine Corps received their first in 1957. In total, 419 F4D-1 (later designated F-6 in the unified designation system) aircraft were produced.
Its unique and notable looks also played a part in making the Skyray one of the best-remembered early jet fighters. Affectionately known as the "Ford" (after the "Four" and "D" of its designation), [4] this aircraft had a spectacular rate and angle of climb and set a new time to altitude record. It saw the Skyray fly from a standing start to 49,221 ft (15,000 m) in 2 minutes and 36 seconds, all while flying at a 70 degree pitch angle. [1] |
This was a very good poll... Thank you Pappy!!!
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