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Here are some screenshots of the new F-14D Tomcat shape and skin that is still in development...

While I have been successful at removing the mirroring on the fuselage and tails, I have so far failed to successfully remove it from swing wings, due to limitaitons of editing animations in shapes...

I have not given up yet, but its not going to be easy... Confused

Well anyway, here ya go! I extended the nose, drooped the radome a bit, extended the forward canopy, removed the mirroring on the forward fuselage, tails, and improved the landing gear... Very Happy












I hope you enjoyed it! It still needs to be tested in Multiplayer and the skin needs to be completed... Very Happy


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PostMon Dec 19 5:21:28 2005
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Beautiful. Thank you CAG Very Happy
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PostTue Dec 20 1:13:41 2005
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Beautiful. Thank you CAG Very Happy


No problem snake-eater...

I have been improving the skin and refining the shape thoughout my freetime this evening...

Here are few more shots of the almost final version...

I compressed the tail skins further, made the night flying lights functional on the tail tips, cleaned up the graphics a bit, corrected the nose, added the two correct air dam tunnels behind the M61 cannon bulge, added the nose number to both sides of the nose, and further improved the landing gear...

However I have not yet found a way to fix the wing mirroring to remove the multiple US insignias from teh wings, but I will get the solution soon enough! Very Happy








More to come...


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PostTue Dec 20 1:59:09 2005
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Man... just saw it, it's awesome stuff!
He (because the Tom is of the male gender, to me) has the Jolly Rogers paint scheme, iisn't it?

Only a thing now... maybe it can depend from my video card, but to my eyes (and I have four Very Happy ) I think it should be better to compress a bit, but just a bit, the canopy's dimensions. So it would be more appropriate if compared with the whole fuselage length, that could be even longer in its mid portion - that between the canopy and the tail, to be more clear.

And BTW, how about to increase a bit also the wings' dimension?
I'm referring to this:
http://imagery.vnfawing.com/screenshots/F-14-New/Improved-F-14-5.GIF
In this pic the wings seem a bit too small, to me, if compared to the engines' dimension...

In any case, these above are only my own impressions, it woul be fine to know also the other members' advise.
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PostTue Dec 20 10:46:47 2005
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Only a thing now... maybe it can depend from my video card, but to my eyes (and I have four Very Happy ) I think it should be better to compress a bit, but just a bit, the canopy's dimensions. So it would be more appropriate if compared with the whole fuselage length, that could be even longer in its mid portion - that between the canopy and the tail, to be more clear.

And BTW, how about to increase a bit also the wings' dimension?
I'm referring to this:
http://imagery.vnfawing.com/screenshots/F-14-New/Improved-F-14-5.GIF
In this pic the wings seem a bit too small, to me, if compared to the engines' dimension...

In any case, these above are only my own impressions, it woul be fine to know also the other members' advise.


1. THe skin is as compressed as its going to get, this shape doesnt have the 4 digit skin vector numbers(it only has 2 digit) to allow the skin area to be enlarged beyond its current size.

2. Its a two place fighter with a very big single canopy, so I dont think it needs to be changed. In fact, I had to length it to get the proper nose dimensions.

3. As I said in the top post, I CANT EDIT ANIMATED POLYGONS, and since the wings are animated swing wings, I cant alter their dimensions, nor do I want to, since they are the prper size. The image you are looking it as ifrom the fly by perspective, thus is more of a 'fisheye' type lens look...



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PostTue Dec 20 11:54:19 2005
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WOW CAG!! beautiful F-14! That is VF-103 colors, right? The 'CAG' bird by CAG! Mr. Green
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Yes she is indeed the 'CAG' doublenuts bird for VF-103...

BTW here is a pic of a real F-14 and as anyone can see, this aircraft has a HUGE canopy...




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Here is a good photo of the F-14 I based the skin on for this FAF F-14B...

As you can see the tail images dont need to be compressed any further and are to pretty much correct scale...




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PostTue Dec 20 19:21:09 2005
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Looks pretty great but are you going to keep the entire radome black?
Seems like the radome itself should be slightly longer.
And should the intakes have a steeper angle to them? They look kind of "F-15ish" F-14s are steeply raked but that might mess something else up in the shape.
If I had a magic wand I would add that little lip to the bottom of the intake nacelles as it's a very distintive detail, oh well.
Overall it looks pretty great, an excellent effort.
And oi vey! how long has the VF-84 been the VF-103? but arrg the Jolly Rogers have always had me favorite tail art.
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CAG,

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In any case, these above are only my own impressions



as I already specified - I seem I appreciated your hard work.

Thanks for the nice pics and your explanations, in any case.
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kaptor wrote:
Looks pretty great but are you going to keep the entire radome black?
Seems like the radome itself should be slightly longer.
And should the intakes have a steeper angle to them? They look kind of "F-15ish" F-14s are steeply raked but that might mess something else up in the shape.
If I had a magic wand I would add that little lip to the bottom of the intake nacelles as it's a very distintive detail, oh well.
Overall it looks pretty great, an excellent effort.
And oi vey! how long has the VF-84 been the VF-103? but arrg the Jolly Rogers have always had me favorite tail art.



Ok let me take this one at time...

1. Radome must be all grey or all black, this is due to that rainbow effect when the greys merge with the blacks, I hide that area under the skin farther back and avoid it on the radome by making it all one color...

and I can extend that black backwards towards the cockpit easily enough to better improve it, but unfortunately I cant duplicate the way the nose is grey and black in the picture... Confused

2. Intakes can easily be brought forward, and I will do so, also bringing the forward fuselage forward as well, I didnt notice that before, sharp eye Kap!!

Now about that intake lip? Can you post a pic of it for me to see? I might be able to add it. Thanks!

3. I think your info about the intakes and my solution of lengthing the entire forward fuselage section to accomadate it should improve the the overall look dramatically, and making the radome area larger will look good as well, but do you have any pics of the F-14 with the radome open so I know how big it truely is? If so please post them here as well! I think this may be what Jackal was seeing as well, he just didnt know how to explain it like you did. Thanks guys!


If I can get all these changes accomplished they should very much improve the look of the Tomcat even further! (if it doesnt interfere with nose gear placement that is! lolol)...


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I think this may be what Jackal was seeing as well, he just didnt know how to explain it like you did. Thanks guys!



Very Happy

This was the point I tried to explain, CAG, you have thought well indeed.

And thanks to Kap for his help - I'm still having "some" troubles with my English, time and patience will help tough Wink

To Kap: Italian spumante (a wine better than French champagne, you can believe me on this) and panettone (a special kind of Christmas cake) are on the way for you, bud...
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Dude this is the best F-14 I have ever seen!

And I know you have tricks up your sleeve that will make it look even better...

Cant wait to test this bad boy.
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I have drooped the nose and forward fuselage section to better emulate teh Tomcat...

The VF-103 is complete now, but when I began editing the VF-111 I ran into a strange issue with the skin that causes an instant CTD, so I have to solve those issues today so we can test...


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kaptor wrote:
And oi vey! how long has the VF-84 been the VF-103? but arrg the Jolly Rogers have always had me favorite tail art.


VF-84 was deactivated after Desert Storm during the downsizing of the early 90s...

VF-103 then retired their "sluggers" mascot and took over the Jolly Rodgers...


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