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I made an interesting little find when I was editing the default Microwave tower to turn it into a functional rotating radar tower...

It seems the tower has a built in shadow. It doesnt have a "shadow shape" added into the object file, like aircraft do, instead this shadow is integrated into the actual shape file...

This is just like the large suspension bridge which also has integrated shadows...

I was able to manipulate this shadw and lift its corner, to test for game stability with the shadow moved and so far no problems...

This makes me one step closer to using this darkened transparency to create much more realeastic canopies for aircraft, that give the darkened look I have now with the dark grey texture, but also giving transparency, so you can see the pilot inside the cockpit, like on default aircraft shape, with with a visible canopy instead of no canopy like on default fa aircraft shapes...

Here is a pic of the raised shadow showing it can be a 3D shape and still be stable...


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PostTue Mar 30 17:05:57 2010
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You're right, CAG, even to me this matter is just more than interesting... Shocked
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So, did you use these information to make dark transparent canopies for the aircraft now?
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PostThu Oct 28 23:02:09 2010
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Have not yet worked on it, but its on the list.

Check back for future updates...
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This find could lead to much more realeastic missiels as well, such as the mavericks that have the glass nose over the seeker..

More than just glass canopies on aircraft.

Perhaps even changing the color of the transparency to that of green or other colors to simulate the gold laced canopy of the EA-6B and the F-16s...

Tests will commence this week to see if I can incorporate this onto all aircraft...
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I have run into some kind of strange problem. I dont know why but I have somehow lost the transparency of the shadow...

At least on the default microwave tower I have...

Going to have to do some further experimentation on the test tower I built for the radar tower in the picture above to see what I did to that shape to make the shadow shape transparent...

Very weird, as I dont remember doing anything to that shape to make it different, except recoloring it ... Confused
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There is a difference between the two towers...

In the following screenshot you can see that the default tower has a much darker shadow shape at the base vs the FPS 68 radar tower which has a lighter shadow!

This lighter shadow is transaprent... So that means that somehow I changed the default shadow that was darker and not transparent into a lighter colored transparent shadow!

So I will have to do further testing to check this out and see what I can do to duplicate this on other shapes...



I lifted the edge of both shadows at the base of the towers to make it easier to see that the microwave tower shadow is not transparent, and I dont know why that is yet...


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PostTue Dec 14 2:19:32 2010
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Success at making it transparent...! I found the one flag in the file to change that single polygon...

So now it is transparent just like the other tower...


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I can even make the transparency on the shadow light grey instead of darker gray (you will have to look closely, it is almost the same color as the ground on the second tower)...


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PostTue Dec 14 5:01:25 2010
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But so far this has led me no where because this square shadow is a seperate LOD of the shape, a seperate polygon in its own section, and when I try to make a skinned area of the shape transparent it doesnt work and CTDs...

And when I try to make an unskinned area transparent shadow it stretches the polgyon all over the place...

So what I have ended up with is a nice discovery that has so far led now where and has just wasted my time... (so far).
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Well that certainly turned out to be a dissappointment! All the work you did for no real benefit isnt something anyone wants to expereince. Sorry you found out this way that you could not use it on canopies. I think it would have looked fantastic if you could have done it.

I think the dev team for original FA very much screwed the pouch by not using this type of polygons in the original shapes for canopies. They had the capabilites but did not take the time to do the work the right way. Damn Lazy Janes EA! Mad
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It was a good try cag. It would have been awesome to have a transparent colored canopy. Dont give up! I bet you can figure out how to do this down the road like you did the landing gear animations!
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